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Aaron Smith (01:45.324)
cool. All proper. Everybody welcome again to a different episode of the Marriage After God Podcast. I’m right here with some actually good buddies of mine, Chris and Jessica Speas. Welcome to the present.
Speas (01:55.078)
Hey, thanks for having us. Hey.
Aaron Smith (01:57.364)
So, nobody, I don’t know what number of of my viewers is aware of you guys. I’m certain among the ladies that observe our present most likely observe you, Jessica, however why don’t we simply begin with who you guys are? How do we all know one another? As a result of we’ve recognized one another for what, over, gosh, most likely 15 years.
Speas (02:14.16)
Yeah, near.
Aaron Smith (02:16.241)
Yeah,
Aaron Smith (02:16.461)
so why don’t we simply begin with a few of your story background testimony.
Speas (02:21.696)
yeah, I imply, is determined by how far we wish to return, however yeah, when, yeah. Effectively, when Jessica and I, have been relationship, nicely, we have been engaged at this level. we determined to begin to enter a wedding ministry, at our church and, Jen and Aaron have been the, the desk leaders at our, at our marriage group. And, you understand, a few months later, we bought married after beginning that and, simply been.
Aaron Smith (02:26.75)
So far as you need.
Speas (02:50.204)
shut buddies ever since. So. Yeah, met. Yeah. Effectively, that’s the humorous factor. As a result of so Erin and I labored on the similar firm at this level. And yeah, simply it was it was actually cool that we each had connections as much as Oregon, however didn’t didn’t understand we have been placing in discover on the identical day at work for 30 days discover. After which
Aaron Smith (02:53.001)
That’s been some time. We did transfer to Oregon collectively. You guys moved first although, proper?
Aaron Smith (03:14.078)
Yeah.
Aaron Smith (03:20.714)
Effectively, and we had form of, imply, we used to go over to your home on a regular basis to have dinner and play video games and stuff. And I bear in mind we like, we might discuss it like at some point we’re to get out of California and Jennifer and I individually had considered shifting to Oregon as a result of her brother and sister-in-law moved right here with their child. you guys, Chris, you had lived right here. And so that you guys have been form of contemplating shifting as much as Oregon. And yeah, the identical day at Sevenley, we put in our
Aaron Smith (03:51.06)
our discover to give up as a result of we have been shifting, which was actually loopy. then, you guys moved a month earlier than we did, after which we moved to after, however, and we’ve recognized, we’ve been buddies ever since, despite the fact that you guys don’t dwell in Oregon anymore, the place’d you guys, the place’d you guys find yourself shifting to? Simply everybody is aware of the place to search out you.
Speas (03:52.668)
Yep.
Speas (04:04.549)
Yeah
Speas (04:09.946)
Yeah, so we’re simply we’re in Tennessee, a few half hour ish south of Nashville. So center Tennessee. And we’ve been right here just a little over 5 years now.
Aaron Smith (04:21.046)
And also you guys adore it nonetheless? Yeah. One factor that’s superior is only a large a part of our story with you guys just isn’t solely did we all know you in California, however then we knew you in Oregon. After which we nonetheless get to keep up a correspondence with you guys as a result of we’ve come and visited and stayed with you in Tennessee as a result of we love touring. so on this dialog, I’d like to get into a few of your guys’ story as a result of I
Speas (04:22.352)
Like it. Like it right here.
Aaron Smith (04:50.867)
It’s
Aaron Smith (04:51.057)
very encouraging and it’s wonderful to see the place you have been, the place God has introduced you and simply seeing the faithfulness of God in your lives. Once more, as a result of I’ve been capable of see the varied seasons of your life, similar to you guys have been capable of see the seasons of ours. Why don’t you return? I really like a few of your marriage story. Why don’t you return to you stated you have been engaged and bought married. Why don’t you share just a bit bit about that journey after which we’ll go on from there as a result of I really like how that began.
Speas (05:19.132)
Yeah, we served collectively on the church that we met Jen and Aaron at and we form of knew one another for a bit however weren’t actually that shut and began hanging out in group settings with the church and completely different actions and stuff. Yeah, as a result of we got here into the identical ministry.
Speas (05:47.316)
and began serving there collectively. And the primary time I met him, he was straight up chilly. I don’t keep in mind that. However I’ll simply, I imply, she’s all the time proper. Yeah, so we have been hanging out like line dancing in group settings, doing, you understand, different actions.
Aaron Smith (05:57.527)
for.
Speas (06:12.784)
After which form of caught my eye at some point and I used to be similar to, I’m going to ask her if she desires to bop. And we did. I’d purchased tickets to love a rustic live performance and I purchased an additional one. I don’t know why, purchased an additional ticket. So was similar to, Hey, what are you doing? You understand, on this date. And he or she’s like, that’s my birthday. I used to be like, you wish to go to a live performance with me? And so I had an additional ticket for her and that was form of our first, you possibly form of date. And we frolicked for a few month.
Aaron Smith (06:31.824)
that’s loopy.
Speas (06:42.662)
We did like mountaineering collectively and going to Disneyland. We had Disneyland passes again then. As you do in Southern California. Yeah. Didn’t like we frolicked. We didn’t even maintain fingers or something. We have been similar to, you understand, attending to know one another. And a few month in, you understand, I form of hit her up like, hey, right here’s form of my previous, you understand, as a result of I’ve at the moment I used to be 29 and I used to be similar to, right here’s right here’s form of who I’m laid it out.
Aaron Smith (06:51.756)
Yeah.
Speas (07:10.712)
And I used to be like, you understand, mainly requested her if she wished to be my girlfriend. after which we have been hanging out and I, I let her know, like I’m relationship with the intention for this, wish to ultimately be married, proper? Simply letting her comprehend it’s not, you understand, I’m not relationship for enjoyable or something. I used to be beginning to really feel older. So, yeah. So she agreed, you understand, agreed to that too. So we, we truly met up with a pair at our church that,
Speas (07:40.134)
we knew and began doing like pre-marriage counseling, like, you understand, setting ourselves up correctly, making an attempt to grasp, you understand. Effectively, we each come from households that we didn’t have one of the best examples of what a wholesome, true marriage, lasting marriage was. And we have been each like, if that’s the place that is going, we want some assist.
Aaron Smith (07:44.219)
Pre-pre.
Aaron Smith (08:02.948)
Yeah.
Speas (08:03.226)
Yeah.
Speas (08:03.736)
And, you understand, after I was in my twenties, I’d bought married, I used to be married for a few yr and, form of destroyed that, demolished it simply because I wished to be single and exit enjoyable once more. full accountability for that. Simply, you understand, that’s earlier than I actually knew, Jesus in a approach that was transformative in the way in which that I approached, relationships and stuff.
Aaron Smith (08:25.06)
Mm-hmm.
Speas (08:30.298)
Yeah, so we did that. We have been boyfriend girlfriend for 2 months after which I proposed to her and.
Speas (08:38.79)
didn’t really feel like ready round. And so two months later, we bought married. So was a complete of like 5 months. I bear in mind my mother was like, I feel a yr’s engagement interval. And I used to be like, the place do you get that from? And I, you understand, my understanding was, is like, biblically, you understand, as soon as you plan that that was the dedication. So some arbitrary quantity after that, it’s like, I had already dedicated at that time. So I’m like, why wait, you understand, I felt like we had affirmation like
Aaron Smith (08:51.651)
Yeah, why?
Speas (09:06.95)
there was form of a cool story behind that and the affirmation. we simply felt prefer it was proper and we jumped in and we’ve been married 13 plus years now. In order that was an fascinating one. Once I first began going to the church, we went to…
Aaron Smith (09:16.439)
Wonderful. What was the affirmation?
Speas (09:25.414)
There was, I met a woman, Carol Duarte, I don’t know when you bear in mind the Duarte, yeah. And he or she was simply actually candy. And that was Palm Sunday. I used to be serving to to arrange for Palm Sunday, the service that we have been having. And a yr later at Palm Sunday, right here we’re simply, you understand, in that hangout, that month we have been simply hanging out. And, you understand, I used to be praying like, God, if that is one thing you need me to pursue, no matter.
Aaron Smith (09:30.574)
I do.
Speas (09:52.136)
And we have been like, the pastor led us to write down down a reputation for baptisms the next week. And he stated, whenever you’re strolling as much as the baptisms to drop the identify in, simply form of pray over that particular person, when you’re with somebody, he stated, simply form of go by your self or no matter. And so we had like stroll alternative ways. And right here comes Carol strolling in direction of me a yr later after I had met her.
Speas (10:19.948)
And he or she offers me a hug. She’s like, good to see you. She’s like, been praying for that woman for you. And simply, was like, form of taking it again and I didn’t reply and simply form of smiled. And after service, I began strolling within the parking zone. I used to be like, Carol, what, like, why, why’d you say that? Trigger I hadn’t advised her that I used to be like,
Aaron Smith (10:37.053)
What are you saying, Carol?
Aaron Smith (10:39.082)
Speas (10:39.106)
Yeah, like
Speas (10:39.706)
there was no indication that I used to be, you understand, hanging out with anybody. she’s like, she form of giggled and stated, I don’t know, typically God, typically God tells me to say stuff. And so simply, I obey. And that was form of a cool little similar to nudge. Like, yeah, that is one thing I ought to be doing. And one of many issues for me was I form of had similar to this curler coaster view of relationships and
Aaron Smith (10:51.421)
That’s actually humorous.
Speas (11:07.516)
You understand, even simply my childhood, it was simply very up and down and chaotic, I assume. And one in all my buddies had stated recommendation that simply actually caught with me earlier than I even met Chris. I used to be in one other loopy relationship, however she stated, what that you must go and hunt down is the calm.
Speas (11:32.144)
this boring, relationship the place there’s no like these large ups and downs. And I believed it was so foolish for her to say that. And I form of scoffed at it. And that’s all this has been with him. It was like what drew me was that he was calm and regular. And he’s the man that’s such as you hear throw up from a
Aaron Smith (11:36.232)
Hmm.
Speas (11:57.284)
child in a room, we’re simply going to calmly go cope with it and return on the sofa to our present. You need that regular calm. Not the emotional ups and downs, however I really feel like our tradition form of idolizes actually and sees us what relationships ought to be.
Aaron Smith (12:09.171)
Yeah, no chaos.
Aaron Smith (12:21.266)
Yeah, the extremes on
Aaron Smith (12:22.768)
all ends. Which is exhausting, by the way in which.
Speas (12:23.034)
Sure, sure, excessive. Sensationalism. Yeah. Yeah. So I all the time say
Speas (12:28.545)
that he’s my calm and my chaos.
Aaron Smith (12:31.676)
And Chris, you might be. Now that she says that, like, I used to be simply considering, was like, Chris may be very calm on a regular basis. The place I might be, Jennifer and I each, we may have like emotional swings. Not that, yeah, truly I’m simply gonna go away it at that. We are able to have emotional swings for certain. That’s good.
Speas (12:43.995)
Mm.
Speas (12:47.228)
I imply, I positively and
Speas (12:50.888)
I inform her as a result of typically, you understand, she’d be like, why don’t you might have any feelings in direction of this? Do you even care and stuff like that? And like inside, I can nonetheless be having, you understand, my feelings, however how I reply is normally, you understand, fairly regular. So I don’t know. That is precisely what I wanted and God knew that.
Speas (13:08.7)
That’s, imply, speaking about recommendation, that’s one factor that I inform all younger individuals in search of relationships. You’re not in search of these highs and these lows, you understand, these up and downs and the place you’re like discovering these breadcrumbs and like residing off of that for a relationship. Such as you need somebody to be regular, the diapers, cleansing up the throw up form of factor.
Aaron Smith (13:29.506)
Mm-hmm.
Aaron Smith (13:34.242)
I noticed
Aaron Smith (13:35.082)
a meme about this. It was speaking about ardour and it confirmed this like graph of like, you understand, actually quick up after which it similar to goes actually quick down. After which it confirmed one which was like dedication. It was like only a constant, you understand, shifting, you understand, no, no excessive excessive, no excessive low, only a consistency. And that’s a extremely good bit of recommendation only for all of us is, is discovering that like what, can we be constant in our
Aaron Smith (14:03.043)
thought course of, not that we’re not going to have onerous days, not that we’re going to have wonderful days as a result of we’re going to have issues that externally have an effect on each these instructions. However that consistency is so key, you understand, being an even-killed particular person, of being somebody who’s regular and never being thrown to… I imply, James talks about that, not being thrown backward and forward, like believing the Lord and never doubting.
Speas (14:14.182)
Yeah.
Speas (14:17.756)
you
Speas (14:22.289)
Yeah.
Speas (14:29.572)
Yeah.
Aaron Smith (14:29.921)
you understand,
Aaron Smith (14:30.532)
in any other case we’re simply being tossed forwards and backwards and being managed by all of the whims of life. In order that’s actually encouraging.
Speas (14:37.178)
And that’s what actually what Christ is for us. Like, he’s the regular. Such as you stated, like we will be tossed by the waves, however he’s the regular and all of that. And I simply, it’s lovely. adore it. His complete, he’s bought a motto because the day I met him is we’ll determine it out. so.
Aaron Smith (14:51.616)
So it sounds good. Sorry.
Aaron Smith (14:59.402)
That and that’s your story too. We’ll determine it out as a result of
Speas (14:59.625)
Yeah.
Aaron Smith (15:03.194)
you guys have had a journey of figuring issues out and I really like that. To begin with, simply getting engaged 5 months in, you understand, getting married like a whirlwind virtually to most individuals. I truly admire that as a result of I see these days it’s like six years engaged and I’m like three years engaged. I’m like, what are you doing? Yeah.
Speas (15:22.524)
Simply ensuring she’s the fitting one. You understand, like,
Speas (15:27.516)
why’d you get engaged then?
Aaron Smith (15:28.884)
Yeah,
Aaron Smith (15:30.445)
no, no, you higher pull that set off. Yeah. However let’s simply let’s discuss your your religion walks for a second, as a result of it feels like previous to you guys coming collectively, you guys have your your your previous historical past of, you understand, religion and then you definately get married and your religion is in a single place. After which over the journey of your marriage, you understand, there’s been there’s been plenty of various things happening. And so I’d like to.
Aaron Smith (15:57.905)
The place have been you guys at in your religion such as you stated Jesus is your basis. Jesus is your is your what was the phrase you stated. Jesus is your regular. Was it like that. Was it like that whenever you guys first bought married. Was that was Jesus in that place in your in your lives.
Speas (16:06.108)
regular, constant. That’s the baseline.
Speas (16:18.556)
Yeah, I feel we all the time held them entrance and heart. suppose our relationship personally had plenty of adjusting to do so far as habits and, you understand, simply form of like, I bear in mind Jessica having plenty of doubts as a result of she’d solely seen, you understand, her mother and father going by means of a number of divorces and stuff like that. Me coming, you understand, I used to be divorced and so…
Aaron Smith (16:25.806)
Mm-hmm.
Speas (16:46.832)
there was, there was some apprehension on her aspect as to, you understand, how a lot she may belief in it. Proper. And so our first, you understand, couple fights or disagreements, she thought, okay, that is the place the underside falls out. You understand, that is it. And I’m like, no, no, no, we’re not. That’s, not what I’m saying right here. we will have a disagreement with out it being over, you understand? And so it, you understand, took some cycles of, of going by means of, you understand, battle and stuff like that.
Aaron Smith (17:03.077)
That’s not the way it works.
Speas (17:15.068)
to grasp that I used to be nonetheless there. And so I do know that’s that’s variety one of many locations that took some rising and it took years and there was all the time like she would carry up like, you understand, there’s after this date, that’s when, you understand, issues go mistaken and statistically in marriages and 7 years, seven years. After which there’s this 10 yr factor. And, know, we simply hit fortunate quantity 13 or no matter. However as these
Aaron Smith (17:35.577)
Yeah.
Speas (17:41.872)
come and go and she or he’s like, okay, you’re nonetheless right here. We’re nonetheless in it collectively. It’s simply solely strengthened the wedding as a result of we’ve blown all of the statistics away and confirmed that we’re dedicated despite the fact that it’s uncomfortable instances and never enjoyable, not butterflies and stuff like that the place everybody thinks as soon as they get married, it’s simply gonna be.
Aaron Smith (18:05.21)
Mm-hmm.
Speas (18:07.408)
butterflies and every thing. it’s like, no, love is love is being constant and being there and serving each other. It’s a selection. Yeah, it’s not I’m not doing this in order that I simply really feel good on a regular basis. yeah, I bear in mind early on, like, you guys gifted us to go to that love and respect convention.
Aaron Smith (18:31.707)
yeah.
Speas (18:31.714)
No,
Speas (18:32.105)
truly, that was the Mark Driscoll one. However we did Love and Respect later. However simply the foundations, it’s actually like dying to your self for the sake of my bride, you understand. so, yeah, when there’s instances…
Aaron Smith (18:45.979)
Mm-hmm.
Speas (18:51.142)
what I need, it’s like, okay, I gotta put aside what I need as a result of I’m not right here for me. And if, you understand, it reciprocates, it’s not like, I’m simply all the time, you understand, the one being walked on or no matter. And that’s, imply, it’s really like from the beginning of our marriage, we have been each in like actually good, zealous locations for the Lord. I had similar to.
Speas (19:17.052)
went by means of like a yr of remedy and I used to be residing it up being single. I used to be, I cherished ministry. I cherished, I used to be in faculty, like full time faculty and I had like no, like I had no need to be in a relationship. I used to be loving this life serving the Lord and it could have, it needed to take somebody simply in that place as nicely.
Aaron Smith (19:38.216)
Mm-hmm.
Speas (19:45.884)
for me to even think about that.
Speas (19:48.268)
And he was continually, he’d be texting me like, I’m within the chapel praying, what do have to be prayed for? And it was like a, it feels quick, 5 months, proper? However the first month was actually like, we’re simply hanging out serving the Lord collectively and there’s all the time different individuals round. it didn’t, was like this, it felt like a warmup for me, for what God had had for us. However in all of that, was like probably the most, you marvel rising up,
Aaron Smith (20:00.295)
Yeah.
Aaron Smith (20:08.072)
Mm-hmm.
Speas (20:18.104)
will
Speas (20:18.304)
you understand when it’s the one or you understand. And I simply needed to only a full, it was so completely different than my complete life that I knew it was proper as a result of it was simply full peace and confidence like, that is it. And it was simply, there was little doubt going into that. Prefer it was simply, whenever you’re that, I simply.
Aaron Smith (20:22.141)
Mm-hmm.
Speas (20:43.324)
We have been each near the Lord and whenever you’re near the Lord, you understand your subsequent steps. And I don’t know, we have been simply in a extremely good place, faith-wise, going into it.
Aaron Smith (20:56.701)
Effectively, I really like what you guys have been speaking about, this concept of… Jessica, I don’t suppose what your issues and fears have been distinctive to you about not realizing, like, nicely, how is that this going to work? I’ve solely ever seen it fail. is it, know, when’s that going to be that factor that triggers the failing? I imply, I had this, my spouse and I, early on after we have been married, we went and visited somebody
Aaron Smith (21:25.918)
And after like 25 years of marriage, we’re getting a divorce. And I bear in mind sitting within the automotive and Jennifer’s like, she’s like, what’s mistaken? And I’m like, I don’t perceive how this, how that’s potential. And I used to be like, what, what hope do we’ve got if somebody might be married, you understand, quote unquote fortunately for 25 years after which it fail like 20. So every thing might be nice proper now, babe. However you understand, in 20 years, are we not going to be nice in 25 years? Is it going to crumble in 30 years? it? And I feel what.
Aaron Smith (21:55.222)
Chris, what you have been saying is the bottom line is not, so long as every thing is peachy and ideal and I really feel good and she or he feels good, then we keep married. No, we keep married as a result of that’s what we promised to do. And I’ve seen so many movies of individuals interviewing previous married {couples} and so they say like, you understand, what’s the important thing to staying married? And so they’re like, you keep married. You don’t quit when it’s onerous, you don’t give up. And it jogs my memory of…
Speas (22:18.566)
Thank
Aaron Smith (22:25.345)
What Jesus calls us to do, says in John 14, abide in me. Abiding, and I used to be simply educating my children about this, abiding is to proceed to stroll with. You’re remaining aspect by aspect. You’re nonetheless right here. To cease abiding is like, I’m not right here anymore. I’m out, peace out. so I really like that encouragement for all of the marriages listening is even when issues are onerous and good, for higher or for worse, the promise is that we abide.
Speas (22:53.424)
cup.
Aaron Smith (22:53.549)
We
Aaron Smith (22:53.789)
stay collectively and we work by means of it collectively and we struggle for one another and that’s what you guys have been doing for 13 plus years now.
Speas (23:00.06)
Yeah,
Speas (23:01.354)
it’s the digging in of the heels. Possibly you wish to experience.
Aaron Smith (23:04.36)
Mm-hmm. And
Aaron Smith (23:06.739)
your 13 years has been fairly simple, proper? Such as you haven’t had any main points and…
Speas (23:09.992)
It’s
Speas (23:12.474)
easy. Yep. Yep. Tremendous simple. No, there’s been instances when, you understand, I failed at, you understand, investing in our relationship. And there’s instances after we had discussions the place she’s like, I really feel like we’re form of simply roommates proper now. And at that time you’ll be able to go, yep, I assume we simply grown like we grew aside or no matter. suppose that’s a standard, you understand,
Aaron Smith (23:13.868)
C’est bon.
Speas (23:40.856)
simple approach out is to only be like, yeah, we simply, we develop aside. And it’s like, no, we simply stopped being intentional. And so in these instances it’s like, okay, let’s, let’s get a date night time. Let’s let me date my spouse once more. Let me pursue her. And even when I like, don’t have that like emotional, like, yeah, feeling this and so lovey-dovey and I simply, you understand, wish to, you understand, take her on a romantic date and stuff, however simply in motion, placing ahead effort.
Aaron Smith (23:52.716)
Yeah.
Speas (24:10.01)
All that comes again and it’s loopy as a result of it’s similar to you’re, it’s like this act as if mentality, you understand, act as when you’re married and in love after which watch prefer it’s there nonetheless. It’s simply you.
Aaron Smith (24:23.151)
Do you
Aaron Smith (24:24.191)
keep in mind that it’s like probably the most memorable message that I ever heard from Chuck at our church? Do you bear in mind what it was about this very idea? There was a Hebrew phrase.
Speas (24:32.892)
I don’t know if it’s…
Speas (24:36.137)
the Assamese. Yeah.
Aaron Smith (24:37.486)
Yeah, see, I knew you have been going to do it. It’s like probably the most,
Aaron Smith (24:40.486)
it’s the actually the one message I ever remembered is Asashima from the Outdated Testomony. Yeah, the place God. Basically, he’s telling his individuals, he’s like, by doing you’ll perceive, like obey me, you understand, observe my instructions and you’ll be blessed. And the entire complete premise of the message was like, nicely, we don’t have to grasp earlier than we obey. And in addition we don’t must have what we’re promised earlier than we obey. It’s precisely what you’re speaking about.
Speas (24:43.224)
Exodus 24-7.
Speas (24:59.728)
Proper right here.
Aaron Smith (25:07.074)
Do act as if you’re in love. Do the issues that you simply did at first. Stroll on this approach and you’ll profit from it. You’ll produce the fruits of it. You’ll be blessed by it. And it’s so true.
Speas (25:20.432)
There’s
Speas (25:22.954)
that love and respect e book we began. We did that in our marriage ministry early on. don’t bear in mind.
Aaron Smith (25:27.342)
Mm-hmm.
Speas (25:33.308)
All of us did it collectively. Like, marriage ministry has caught with us, and it’s one thing that we like to serve in. And we’ve gone by means of with the group, with two completely different teams now, that e book, and simply what has all the time caught with me. And I’m so glad that that occurred at first of our marriage, this little lesson of the circle. Like, I’m solely doing this when you’re doing this. However when you break that circle, like, I’m doing this as a result of.
Speas (26:00.684)
reply to God. Like I can’t, you get to God, you’ll be able to’t level the finger and say, nicely he was doing this, you understand. And so how scripture tells you to be a spouse, simply obey that. And he’s bought this. Like God’s bought your husband. You do what you, the subsequent proper factor for you, what scripture says. And for me, it’s like…
Aaron Smith (26:02.095)
Mm-hmm.
Speas (26:26.224)
biting your tongue, not nagging. Like that’s one of many greatest issues that I see in marriages which are crumbling round us is the fixed nagging. The dripping to make me wish to go sit within the nook of the room or no matter. And as a substitute of like, and there’s been selections that I don’t agree with and I’ll put my enter in. I’m not saying to not say something in, however, to place your enter in it, step again.
Aaron Smith (26:40.525)
on the rooftop.
Aaron Smith (26:51.024)
Yeah.
Speas (26:55.118)
and let him lead. that’s like counter-cultural. it’s not one thing… Yeah, yeah, positively.
Aaron Smith (27:01.397)
It’s presently anti-cultural.
Aaron Smith (27:05.385)
you’re anti-women for saying that.
Speas (27:07.034)
proper.
Speas (27:08.486)
And it’s all the time simply trusting in God that he’s bought, like God is extra highly effective than me, like he’s bought Chris and he’ll lead him and you understand.
Speas (27:21.308)
prayer is highly effective. Like, I’ll say my piece after which there’s gonna be plenty of nights the place I’m praying. And it’s unbelievable too to see that although. Like you’ll be able to replicate and there’s been issues like I’ll quietly be praying for and you understand days or perhaps weeks or months go by and there’s one thing.
Aaron Smith (27:25.521)
pray.
Speas (27:42.092)
answered in that by means of his actions. And it’s simply unbelievable to see God’s hand in that, like that he’s bought this and it’s such as you will be, you don’t must have that management as a result of anytime we attempt to management something anyway it doesn’t actually find yourself nicely. And so to see God’s highly effective hand in the truth that he listens and he loves and he’s listening to these particulars that you simply’re involved about, you understand?
Aaron Smith (27:57.959)
Mm-hmm.
Aaron Smith (28:10.311)
Yeah.
Speas (28:11.1)
There was instances after I was, you understand, she could not have agreed. I went down, you understand, did my factor. After which in a while I got here again and was like, Hey, so this isn’t understanding. We’re going to attempt that. It’s like what she advised me to do initially. However you understand, a part of that development in me wasn’t similar to, I higher do it. Trigger my spouse says so like, you understand, God needed to work me by means of it. So I believed it and you understand, would act that approach as a result of I understood why, not simply because I’m like making an attempt to appease my spouse. So.
Aaron Smith (28:38.291)
Effectively,
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and I all the time say, I imply, it’s onerous to stroll this stuff out. It’s simple to say, like, yeah, similar to let him lead. And, you you are taking a step and go pray for him. Like these are simple issues to say. Manner tougher to do, however there’s one thing that’s good to recollect is like we, such as you stated, God’s extra highly effective than you. And this goes for husbands and wives as a result of there’s instances when us as husbands need our wives to stroll a sure approach and we will’t management them.
Speas (28:47.228)
You
Speas (28:50.672)
Proper.
Aaron Smith (29:06.375)
It
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could be mistaken for us to attempt to management them, however we may pray for them. And I simply all the time must keep in mind that I make a horrible Holy Spirit and my spouse makes a horrible Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is superb at what his mission is on this world, which is the convict of sin, righteousness, and judgment. And simply with the ability to belief the Holy Spirit with our partner and working to him and saying, Lord, right here’s my husband, right here’s my spouse, right here’s my coronary heart on this matter.
Speas (29:14.236)
Yeah.
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And God’s all the time trustworthy and He all the time solutions our prayers, whether or not we like the way in which He solutions it or not. So I feel that’s a really… that what you’re saying you do and also you need to do and attempt to do is an effective instance for not simply our wives however husbands as nicely, that we do belief the Holy Spirit with our partner and we make a follow of going to God for them and with them. And it’s one thing that all of us have to be doing. It’s a lot…
Speas (29:39.579)
you
Aaron Smith (30:04.884)
higher than what you guys have been speaking about nagging. significantly better than making an attempt to control and management and coerce, which isn’t love. None of that’s love.
Speas (30:13.892)
After which it, know, in Proverbs, it says each man’s proper in his personal thoughts, proper? And so whenever you’re getting in prayer to your partner, just be sure you’re checking me like, hey, Lord, if I’m mistaken right here, like present me. And when you will be humble sufficient to be like, okay with being mistaken and possibly one thing wants to alter there too. Like I’ve been there. Simply, know, in prayer, simply, hey, God.
Aaron Smith (30:18.418)
Yeah.
Aaron Smith (30:26.228)
Mm.
Aaron Smith (30:37.856)
Yeah.
Speas (30:38.268)
I really feel this manner, I’m praying for her, but when I’m mistaken, present me, form of factor. The purpose is for decision and togetherness to stroll by means of issues collectively, proper? So it doesn’t must be a battle. It’s simply making an attempt to align, determine how you can align. I really like that. And one in all my favourite verses is the final one in all one’s Psalm 139. I search my coronary heart and know my ideas.
Aaron Smith (31:05.547)
Yeah.
Speas (31:05.872)
Like if we will make a each day follow out of that, like not that I’m excellent, nevertheless it’s actual useful to have that humility and like, the place am I going mistaken on this second?
Aaron Smith (31:20.864)
That’s superior. The whole lot you guys are saying is precisely an encouragement that I want as a result of I have to be reminded of this stuff. has there ever been a time in your marriage, in your personal private life that you simply guys have had a battle in your religion? how have you ever guys how did you stroll by means of it? What was the story behind that? And the way did God how do you ways do you see God in that?
Speas (31:46.96)
I
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suppose all through our complete marriage, it’s form of been a forwards and backwards actually. There’s been instances the place I’m not the strongest in my religion and he’s and he pulls me after which forwards and backwards form of factor. I’d say one in all our seasons the place we have been each form of simply stagnant was after we moved to Tennessee.
Speas (32:11.216)
as a result of we didn’t have neighborhood and we have been within the mistaken place. Like, I imply, not mistaken place, however that wasn’t the place we have been settling in in Tennessee and we knew it. so it was like onerous to know who to hook up with neck with, like what to be intentional about. And so we form of simply did the mistaken factor and didn’t actually join with individuals. So we have been each simply stagnant, stagnant in our religion.
Speas (32:39.964)
I bear in mind
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that was one thing that I reached out to you about was, hey, we’re right here. like, we don’t know. We don’t know the place we’re touchdown. We’re not going to be on this spot for lengthy. We don’t wish to, you understand.
Speas (32:53.456)
become involved in a neighborhood right here after which find yourself shifting, you understand, at this level we’re an hour and 10 minutes away from that different spot, despite the fact that they’re each Nashville, center Tennessee space, it’s, was a good distance. And so was like, I didn’t wish to decide to that. And then you definately inspired like, simply, that you must dive in the place you’re at, proper? Trigger backside line is we have to be residing in like neighborhood. It’s not, I don’t suppose there’s such factor as being a Christian with out neighborhood and, you understand,
Aaron Smith (33:03.479)
Yeah.
Speas (33:22.992)
being a part of church, whether or not it’s.
Speas (33:26.64)
You understand that may form of go alternative ways and other people, you bought to be in communion with different individuals, with different believers for encouragement and fellowship and stuff like that. And so, yeah, that was, you understand, that’s 2020. We moved out right here in 2019. 2020 was a loopy yr for us. And that’s what like we, I really feel like, and this isn’t good recommendation for anyone to attend on God to love smack your, your heads to get again with this.
Aaron Smith (33:29.306)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Aaron Smith (33:42.839)
Yay, COVID.
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Speas (33:56.574)
We
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However he’ll.
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bought into, yeah, we are going to. It’s a, I name it extreme mercies. We bought right into a twister six months into residing right here. And that’s one in all my large story of my ministry is it simply woke me as much as like, wait, like this might finish at any second. And like, what are we doing for the Lord? After which, so after we realized we weren’t going to die that night time within the twister, was actually like every week later, two weeks later that COVID occurred.
Speas (34:26.506)
every thing shut down and we simply had this like we want neighborhood and no person’s allowed to fulfill up or no matter and in order that was even tougher. So it like compelled us to be like we want individuals and that is necessary and like we have to inform individuals they want people who we will’t be hiding in worry proper now and in order that what that’s form of what compelled us.
Speas (34:49.188)
all the way down to the realm we’re at proper now as a result of we have been seeking a basement, the rental that had a basement as a result of we didn’t have one and my goodness. we went to the primary church that was open. There was an open church and it was close by. We’re going there. Yeah.
Aaron Smith (35:07.191)
It was
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most likely a proper on church if it stayed open throughout COVID, simply on some ranges. Yeah.
Speas (35:10.716)
There yeah, there was some good elements about it. Later
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on theologically we had some issues, some challenges there that ultimately led us to, you understand, discovering a brand new place to go. I imply. Precisely the place we wanted to be in that season and have neighborhood. And it was a lesson of simply how necessary that was for certain, as a result of we have been each failing in our religion with out that.
Aaron Smith (35:16.985)
Okay.
Aaron Smith (35:37.232)
Might you guys, I bear in mind the story and I bear in mind getting the telephone name afterwards and Jennifer’s like, my gosh, there was a twister and I’m like, what? Not that I used to be shocked that there was a twister, I used to be shocked that my buddies have been actually in a single. Would you share that little story, not little, however share that story of that night time?
Speas (35:55.068)
Yeah,
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so for me, I had fallen asleep. We truly have been going by means of a time frame the place…
Speas (36:02.394)
Like we have been turning off Wi-Fi at night time and every thing, form of like getting it fully silent in the home and simply, you understand, that kind of factor. And this particular night time, I had simply gotten again from going to Memphis with Justin Owens truly. And so we have been rushed again from him and I doing just a little man weekend down there watching a basketball sport. And so we like, we simply didn’t shut off and do our regular factor, however my telephone, I preserve it on silent at nighttime if it’s necessary.
Aaron Smith (36:16.924)
yeah.
Speas (36:29.818)
I can wait until the morning, I assume. However she wakes me up. I’d go to sleep first. And he or she’s similar to, hey, I don’t bear in mind is twister warning or watch the dangerous one. I stated, warning. Why? What’s happening? She confirmed me her telephone and stated, twister warning. And I used to be like, get the children, proper? That was my preliminary response popping out of lifeless sleep. I say, get the children and never put a couple of seconds later, we hear the sirens going off on the center college down the road. And so like hair on the again of my neck raises. I’m working. I scared the crap out of.
Aaron Smith (36:53.468)
my gosh.
Speas (36:59.42)
She bought, we had a plan truly. And so she was to go get Rhett, our youngest one, who was solely, you understand, what, yr and a half on the time. Yeah. And, after which I grabbed the older two and we bumped into like, it was a single story home, however we had a rest room that was like form of encapsulated since you may shut off the place the bathroom was. After which the hallway was on the opposite aspect. So we closed the doorways, bought within the closet and,
Aaron Smith (37:20.359)
Yeah.
Speas (37:26.972)
Yeah, we, was speaking to her mother on the telephone who she lived down the road and I used to be similar to, Hey, are you okay? And it was form of like 15 extra minutes. So had a ready interval of like quarter-hour and I’m simply watching information on my telephone. introduced my telephone into the closet and it’s similar to speaking about beginning in East Nashville or Germantown. it, you understand, went to Donaldson and Hermitage and it’s heading in direction of, you understand, Mount Juliet. And I’m like, that’s it. I’m, I’m realizing myself, it’s a direct line to us. And also you have been studying it too. And also you, and then you definately realized you shouldn’t be studying this out loud.
Aaron Smith (37:56.413)
Out
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loud. yeah.
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You stated,
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disastrous. After which his voice trailed off and like, what? So, yeah. So we’re speaking to her mother. I’ve bought her on speakerphone after which, we begin listening to like thunder and lightning form of rumbling and coming nearer and we’re simply form of like listening and stuff. after which I heard this like loud.
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They are saying it feels like a freight prepare. It’s a freight prepare. was like, and so I requested her mother, I used to be like, are you able to hear that? And he or she goes, hear what? And proper then the lights flickered, the telephone name dropped and it simply began getting louder and louder. We heard stuff pelting the home. She… In the mean time the home windows broke. know. Was it the…
Speas (38:44.41)
I’m making an attempt to recollect the time I began to sing my coronary heart out. I dove over, not that it’s going to assist a lot, however my intuition was to only form of huddle over the entire household. And he or she begins singing Hosanna. That’s all I may. It was this actually bizarre second the place it’s like…
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Just like the worst ache of your life like flooded my physique as a result of I’m similar to you wish to run so dangerous and you’ll’t run anyplace. And I’m feeling this with the glass breaking and the wind developing from beneath.
Aaron Smith (39:11.935)
Mm-hmm.
Speas (39:18.498)
our door that we have been in our closet. So I’m already realizing that is going by means of a door, by means of a door, by means of a door to get to us and we’re feeling the wind. And youngsters are freaking out. My daughter’s saying her final phrases. And so I simply began like worshiping the Lord as a result of I’m like, what else can we do? There’s nothing else we will do right here.
Speas (39:43.16)
It’s just a bit snippet of that story the place, imply, take for what it was, however we noticed the map of the twister afterwards. And that’s what I began singing after the lights turned off.
Speas (39:55.74)
as a result of on the map it stated the place the twister hit the sunshine field, it shifted proper after that and it didn’t go down. It was happening our avenue and it went down the subsequent took a slight proper and simply went south us just a little bit. I used to be simply simply worshipping that twister away from us. However yeah, when that cup exploded, so it was like 145 mile an hour.
Aaron Smith (40:11.702)
Wow.
Speas (40:20.108)
right now. And so when that that was all the way in which within the kitchen, so air got here by means of the kitchen window, took a proper hand flip, went by means of the lounge, down the hallway, below the door into the lavatory, after which below the door into the closet, and I felt my hair like blowing up. Like the quantity of wind was, it was loopy. Yeah, ton of, ton of it.
Aaron Smith (40:21.419)
Wow.
Speas (40:43.098)
Yeah, we, after which it form of rumbled and went away. After which I’m similar to, I don’t know the way tornadoes work. And we’re similar to, can we go exterior now? Like, can it flip round? You understand, how does this work? Will we simply keep in right here? So I lastly, yeah, I lastly went out and yeah.
Aaron Smith (40:51.167)
Yeah, is it gone? It’s coming again!
Speas (41:00.56)
neighborhood was simply going like throughout the road 100 foot tall timber as large round as you understand.
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like most likely like six, seven foot huge simply toppled over, you understand. Like eight foot planks simply sticking up like toothpicks in our yard. Yeah, housing. And thru our home windows, was wild. yeah, there’s that music that like, that is form of what spurred on a ministry for me after this was that Candy Ever After music by, is that Holcomb?
Aaron Smith (41:09.251)
Wow.
Aaron Smith (41:31.841)
Ellie,
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Ellie Holcomb. It’s music.
Speas (41:33.242)
Yeah, and there’s a complete snippet
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of that music and I don’t know when that music got here out however I used to be listening at that time that I like I’ve by no means heard that half earlier than the place it’s like she actually explains a twister in that music and it simply turned like
Aaron Smith (41:48.156)
fascinating. I didn’t understand that. I’m going to look
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that up after this.
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Yeah, it’s
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like waking up terrified in the course of the night time within the storm and there’s glass shattered in all places. anyway, in order that form of simply launched me into simply, I must get again to Jesus.
Aaron Smith (42:05.026)
Yeah,
Aaron Smith (42:05.746)
so this second, imply, not everybody will get a second like this. That’s one thing that’s traumatic in a way of, as you stated, was it? Excessive grace? Extreme mercies, that’s what it was. I made up a brand new one. Extreme mercies the place God was getting your guys’ consideration as a result of previous to this, such as you stated, there was simply stagnant and distance and not likely…
Speas (42:17.148)
of your mercies.
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absolutely aligned with the Lord. However that every one modified after that night time, didn’t it? How did that, you understand, what modified in your guys’s hearts in that second and the way did it result in your present now on-line ministry?
Speas (42:50.94)
I
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suppose it form of went just a little completely different for every of us. I truly didn’t come out of it in the identical mindset as she did, like a get up name. With that and COVID, I truly form of went into some fairly dangerous anxiousness and panic assaults and stuff at night time.
Speas (43:13.904)
That form of lasted just a little bit. After which, you understand, I used to be capable of, you understand, get previous that. Whereas, you understand, she took off along with her story. I’ll let her… Effectively, I feel that’s the place it is available in for you is that what we have been simply speaking about is that her his motto is, we’ll determine it out. And for the primary time, most likely in our marriage, you didn’t have it out.
Aaron Smith (43:37.701)
couldn’t determine it out.
Speas (43:38.62)
such as you didn’t
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have management over this. didn’t have like that intuition of defending your loved ones. If that twister went over our home, there was no defending us. he went into like, I’ve had a sequence of my complete lifetime of coping with anxiousness, panic assaults and despair. And he’s like on the sofa sweating.
Aaron Smith (43:48.165)
It’s completed.
Speas (44:00.356)
like loopy and having these like coronary heart points and stuff. similar to, that is, that is anxiousness, hun. And he’s similar to, I’m dying. You understand, I actually thought, I believed I used to be sick. Like I’m, I’ve bought most cancers or one thing. Like one thing’s mistaken with me as a result of I’m waking up in the course of night time, simply drenched in sweat. And he or she’s like, yeah, you’re having a panic assault. I’m like, it’s, it’s, it’s one thing dangerous. And I’m like,
Aaron Smith (44:08.174)
I’ve by no means had this earlier than.
Aaron Smith (44:20.613)
I’m dying.
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That’s what that appears like.
Speas (44:21.308)
So, however yeah. However I
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suppose that it challenged you in a approach you wanted to be challenged to cling to the Lord. And for me it was, you understand, waking as much as like what my grandparents of holy all the time taught me. have been
Speas (44:41.018)
passed by then however their voices began ringing in my thoughts once more. Like all of the issues, like they have been the believers in my life. These are the people who advised me about Jesus and prefer it all got here dashing again to me and the reality is that and that’s what a legacy that they left. Such as you don’t know the seeds you’re planting and so they didn’t know.
Speas (45:09.85)
that and the way this could apply to my life a lot in a while previous after they’re gone, you understand, and like their phrases have been developing and I simply had this not this I do know that works don’t get us to heaven and that’s not what this was. was a we don’t we’ve got such little time left and I wish to do all I can to inform individuals
Speas (45:38.638)
about him and that he’s coming and like in what an honor and simply unbelievable approach we can be utilized right here till we get to heaven as a result of this isn’t our this isn’t the top for us like we’ve got eternity and I’ve that second of like we’ve got eternity to calm down you understand like I can I’ve bought work to do now and that’s it simply woke me up.
Speas (46:08.24)
and I’ve simply been going ever since, actually.
Aaron Smith (46:08.584)
That’s superior.
Aaron Smith (46:11.432)
What
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is it you’re doing now? It’s you might have a social media account and also you and also you encourage ladies in what?
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I’ve been educating eschatology to ladies ever since then now. I began off slowly. I had to determine the place we’re at and what was true since you get on YouTube and there’s a lot on the market. However simply clinging into scripture and like I had the Bible out on our eating
Aaron Smith (46:34.726)
Yep.
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desk and I simply had it like like all of the voices off and I’d simply in each second I’d come again to my Bible and and it was like this
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It was a piece to be like, wish to be devoted to be studying this and having this be what’s coming into my thoughts and my coronary heart continually. in these moments I used to be going by means of Daniel and it was simply blowing my thoughts. so anyway, so there was plenty of me like studying issues and like, okay, I’m sharing this on Instagram as a result of that is wonderful. Like that is what God has taught me and I’m such a visible
Aaron Smith (47:00.703)
Yeah.
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individual that I put it on a timeline, all of the prophecy occasions, the Bible occasions actually, and simply to see all of it laid out and so I can see what’s occurring and the place we’re at.
Speas (47:34.767)
I simply was sharing it on Instagram, like I’ve shared my life on Instagram earlier than and it simply form of took maintain of some individuals and so they wished a Bible timeline too and that’s form of the place it simply all began for me and I simply saved going with it and I’ve completed.
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retreats and I’ve completed Zooms, I’ve completed podcasts, simply telling everyone like form of what you advised me, get up, he’s coming quickly. what I really like about her strategy with it too was in a world filled with like a lot noise and so many influencers and other people on-line. suppose lots of people simply grow to be repeaters and
Aaron Smith (48:04.657)
Wait
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she’s all the time inspired individuals like, right here’s what I’m studying within the Bible. Right here’s the place yow will discover it within the Phrase. if you wish to know extra, prefer it’s within the Phrase. And he or she’s all the time directing individuals to the Phrase, not like, take my phrase for it. It’s like, it’s proper. Like you’ll be able to go learn it, pray to God, ask him for understanding. And that’s, I’ve all the time actually cherished that she’s approaching it from that time as a result of it’s not, you understand.
Aaron Smith (48:30.409)
Yeah.
Speas (48:42.108)
hey, I figured one thing out and I bought to let you know, like, belief me. It’s not like, simply, I’m going to, I’m going to let you know one thing and also you simply go and repeat it. It’s like, right here’s how one can truly, you understand, perceive and make certain of it. And, you understand, go, go test it out your self. So I feel that’s what most likely helped too. Trigger it’s not this like, she’s not making an attempt to be a determine. She’s simply sharing.
Aaron Smith (48:48.169)
Belief me. I’ve secret information. I do know issues that you simply don’t know.
Aaron Smith (49:06.934)
Yeah. Effectively, what I really like
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about your strategy, Jessica, is there’s plenty of influencers on the market that discuss issues which are happening on this planet and so they level out the mysteries of it. They level out the controversies of it. They level out the conspiracies of it and so they attempt to pinpoint them to non secular issues. And there’s lots of people doing that and it all the time results in worry and anxiousness.
Aaron Smith (49:35.372)
Prefer it’s like, have a look at this factor. the top’s coming or have a look at this factor. that is how they’re going to take over this. You understand, these worry mongering and inflicting anxiousness and worry and confusion and doubt. However what you do is you form of discuss related issues, like issues which are happening on this planet. However you all the time finish with, however we don’t have to be afraid as a result of that is that is our finish. That is what God has promised us. And so that you level out issues and also you attempt to
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sensational.
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Proper.
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Yeah.
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You attempt to join them to eschatological issues within the Bible, however on the finish of it, you’re all the time encouraging a proper considering in that this isn’t the factor that we hold our hat on, nevertheless it’s good to know what’s happening. However what we hold a on is Christ. And so that you’re all the time coming again to show your coronary heart to Jesus as a result of he’s coming. I simply noticed a tweet from, my gosh, I’m going to overlook his identify, Russell Model, who
Speas (50:12.273)
you
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Yeah.
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Sure.
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has had a miraculous conversion to Christ. And I cherished watching his journey. However he simply tweeted, he’s like, what number of of you all suppose Jesus is coming quickly? That was all he requested. And I used to be like, that’s superior, as a result of he’s coming quickly. And he’s genuinely curious, like, the place’s everybody’s coronary heart on this? However I’ve by no means heard a star that’s transformed to Christianity ask that and say, OK, when’s Jesus coming?
Aaron Smith (51:02.703)
What’s everybody’s ideas on this? Do we expect his return is imminent? However like I stated, your coronary heart in ministering to ladies about eschatology is to not carry worry and anxiousness or conspiracy concerning the future, nevertheless it’s to remind us that the reality is that we want Jesus as a result of
Speas (51:16.262)
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Aaron Smith (51:22.118)
He’s coming again. And all of this stuff that we see on this planet, whether or not they completely hook up with this or that prophecy, it factors us to the fact that it’s true and Jesus is coming again.
Speas (51:29.562)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
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and simply watching out for it. Like, might be like, like, we realizing the subsequent occasions in scripture and watching out for it. And like that’s, and I’ve bought, Maranatha is one thing. Yeah, it’s, that is our new shirts. About to launch. Yeah. Thanks.
Aaron Smith (51:45.293)
I used to be taking a look at that in your shirt.
Aaron Smith (51:49.409)
Yeah, cool. That’s your shirt? I prefer it. Cool. When you have
Aaron Smith (51:56.134)
a guys one in massive you’ll be able to ship it to me.
Speas (51:58.564)
Okay.
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Simply encouraging individuals to, I imply, in scripture it says encourage one another with these phrases. Thessalonians, when he’s speaking about Christ returning, like we’re imagined to encourage one another and prophecy is arguably one fourth to 1 third of the Bible. And first chapter of Revelation talks about all those that examine this can be, it’s a blessing to you.
Aaron Smith (52:10.169)
The top instances.
Speas (52:25.08)
This was our, prophecy is our blessing. It’s our software to have the ability to be taught and unfold the gospel. Jesus stated when he was saying stuff about prophecy, he stated, I let you know this stuff in order that after they come, when they’re fulfilled, you’ll imagine. As a result of that is, different faith has this accomplished literal prophecy fulfilled completely.
Speas (52:51.08)
and we get to make use of that to unfold the gospel. So it’s one thing that plenty of church buildings will draw back from. But when we dig in and know this stuff, know what scripture says, and never ignore these elements of the scriptures that make us uncomfortable or may make us fearful, when you lean into that, God offers you full peace, and it’s really our victory.
Aaron Smith (53:15.875)
Yeah, I used to be simply speaking to somebody about prophecy the opposite day about how Paul explains that prophecy is supposed to encourage the believer in what we imagine, to not… it’s not one thing that we search for like, we have to determine what’s occurring as a result of we have to put together. No, it’s to encourage us as believers that what we imagine is true, nevertheless it’s to convict and convert unbelievers. That’s what prophecy is meant for, is to…
Speas (53:26.694)
Mm-hmm.
Speas (53:40.774)
Sure.
Aaron Smith (53:43.939)
draw unbelievers to perception and to encourage believers in what they imagine. Had been you into eschatology earlier than this twister?
Speas (53:45.724)
Mm-hmm.
Speas (53:52.636)
She
Speas (53:55.948)
simply had what her, what her, you understand, form of her grandma was placing in her head. Trigger she was like complete Baptist, simply, you understand, hearth and brimstone form of, you understand, particular person. And yeah. So she, she seemed again on that and was like, I’m beginning to see issues that my grandma talked about. And that was one of many issues that form of triggered her to dig deeper in it. Trigger she’s like, I’m seeing issues on this planet that grandma was speaking about. So what is that this now? Yeah.
Aaron Smith (54:18.159)
Yeah, and COVID period was
Aaron Smith (54:21.245)
a giant, large spark for like lots of people of wait a minute, what’s occurring on this planet?
Speas (54:24.625)
Yeah.
Speas (54:27.108)
I feel like, I imply, I’ve all the time, I’ve had curiosity about eschatology, like some other, I’d have talks with my auntie about it, like, nevertheless it wasn’t something actual or studied, you understand. So, positively woke me as much as examine it.
Aaron Smith (54:44.809)
Yeah.
Aaron Smith (54:48.584)
Effectively, I really like that not solely have you ever guys a narrative was simply steeped within the Lord directing and utilizing after which all through your marriage, God, not simply he was utilizing in your ministry throughout the marriage after which even in that season the place you guys have been stagnant, God was nonetheless shifting in and round you guys. There was individuals praying for you guys. You guys have been being contained.
Aaron Smith (55:16.36)
by God and even, I imply, I don’t wish to say he despatched the twister particularly for you, however I’m certain there’s numerous individuals’s tales about that twister, however your guys’ story particularly simply him drawing you again to him and opening your eyes. And in addition, I really like that you simply identified that Chris was form of an reverse expertise the place he’s being confronted for the primary time and his lack of management, his lack of potential, which then introduced him to a unique place with the Lord. And I’ve had the privilege of
Speas (55:24.284)
you
Aaron Smith (55:44.358)
Experiencing all of that with you guys not from the very very starting as a result of I wasn’t there whenever you guys met however very shut I used to be like there throughout the month of you guys getting married And so I’ve had the privilege of being part of that I Was yeah, that’s what I’m saying. I met you guys proper earlier than you bought married However not proper whenever you met
Speas (55:49.692)
Yeah, with Emma. Y’all, you have been at our marriage ceremony. You’re like, why are you… Yeah. You’re like, wait only a minute.
Speas (56:01.542)
So why are you inviting us to your marriage ceremony? I’m like, come on.
Aaron Smith (56:03.937)
Yeah.
Aaron Smith (56:05.968)
However I simply love that. additionally love that the response to your guys’s hearts being drawn nearer to God is extra ministry, is extra, such as you stated, works, nevertheless it’s not, once more, not for salvation sake, however due to it. And that’s precisely what God does to us after we observe, after we abide in Him, we produce fruit. And I simply…
Aaron Smith (56:28.479)
I really like that. I wish to encourage all of my listeners to only have a look at your personal marriage, have a look at your personal life, and have a look at these moments that God has reached out to you and that you understand what they’re. And the way have you ever responded? And when you didn’t reply the way in which you are feeling like it is best to have, when you don’t really feel such as you’ve drawn nearer to Him, then draw shut immediately and permit God to make use of you in mighty methods as a result of that’s what He does. He makes use of us. He doesn’t want us. He doesn’t want to make use of us, however He completely does use us. And never as a result of we’re excellent, not as a result of we’ve got it found out.
Aaron Smith (56:57.962)
however as a result of we’re hosts, we’re prepared vessels that he can pour into and that’s what I need for my life.
Speas (57:04.092)
We
Speas (57:04.763)
had a pastor that might say, don’t simply sit in your blessed assurance. I like simply sitting round, you’re like, I’m good, I’m secure. I’ve been promised.
Aaron Smith (57:09.878)
That’s true, don’t simply sit on it.
Aaron Smith (57:16.32)
Yeah.
Speas (57:18.684)
I’m similar to, sit with that although.
Aaron Smith (57:18.934)
Yeah, I all the time just like the
Aaron Smith (57:21.754)
image of, know, whenever you’re within the boat, when you’re not paddling upstream, then you definately’re simply going downstream. And the second you cease, once more, not that going upstream is the salvation, it’s that shifting and abiding with Christ, if he’s shifting one course, the second we cease, he doesn’t cease shifting. We cease and we’re solely making distance with God. However, you understand, God’s good additionally and he runs again for us.
Aaron Smith (57:48.694)
and he attracts us out of our Muck and Meyer and brings us to new locations with him. so that you guys are an affidavit to that.
Speas (57:58.748)
Thanks.
Aaron Smith (57:59.838)
Yeah, nicely, I really like you guys. We’ve I feel we’ve had sufficient time and I cherished listening to your story and I simply what Jessica, what’s your Instagram so individuals can go examine you out and get some eschatological encouragement?
Speas (58:11.142)
This
Speas (58:12.004)
is Jessica underscore Spies on Instagram.
Aaron Smith (58:15.19)
Jessica underscore Spies.
Aaron Smith (58:17.01)
Effectively, I really like you guys. Thanks. Is there anything you’d wish to share with my viewers earlier than we log off?
Speas (58:23.772)
I feel that’s about it. It’s good. Good for now. It’s good speaking to you. We miss you guys. We may preserve going for some time. Yeah, I do know.
Aaron Smith (58:25.11)
Cool.
Aaron Smith (58:28.992)
I do know,
Aaron Smith (58:29.663)
simply because I miss you guys too. We’re all the time making an attempt to plan one other street journey or a way of getting out to you guys or making an attempt to get you guys to come back right here.
Speas (58:38.426)
Yeah, we’d that
Speas (58:39.234)
too.
Aaron Smith (58:41.273)
So, nicely I really like you guys and hope to have you ever guys on once more someday, okay? All proper, God bless, guys.
Speas (58:45.284)
Alright, sounds good.
Speas (58:47.672)
Bye.
